[PLUG] Artix - Fork of Arch Linux

Russell Senior russell at personaltelco.net
Tue Dec 31 06:14:59 UTC 2019


The day after tomorrow is a new year. Let's all resolve to try to be better
humans in the next decade.

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 9:21 PM Denis Heidtmann <denis.heidtmann at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I wonder if your angry response was intended to accomplish something: get a
> change in behavior or an improvement in the usefulness of this mail list?
> If so, do you think you were successful?  If that was not your intention,
> what was the purpose?
>
> -Denis
>
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 5:50 PM Ben Koenig <techkoenig at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Which is why I asked where to direct concerns. Public complaints always
> get
> > clipped to a sound-bite. Next thing you know there's a wall of text
> flying
> > right past the intended point.
> >
> > I work in tech support. I don't succeed there because I disregard the
> > concerns of end users. I take the time to read and understand what is
> being
> > asked and give pointed suggestions to solve problems. This is why it
> sucks
> > so much when someone walks all over my response, leads by admitting they
> > have no idea what they are talking about, and then proceeds to wash out
> any
> > sense of reality.
> >
> > Is he doing it intentionally? No probably not. But any attempt to set out
> > what is or isn't real is met with the same assumption that his age makes
> > him right. IMNSHO that is not a polite way to engage in conversation in
> any
> > group. I do consider it abusive, and there are multiple people here who
> do
> > that consistently. I'll raise the issue privately. If the powers that be
> > decide that PLUG is a group of old white men bragging about the decades
> of
> > experience they have in fortran, then maybe I should move on. My
> protonmail
> > account is far more peaceful than gmail anyway, I'll just move important
> > contacts over there and continue with my remaining 70 years.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 3:49 PM Mike C. <mconnors1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > Truth is, I don't care if other PLUG members think I'm out of line.
> > > >
> > >
> > > You seem like a fairly reasonable person and you were personally
> helpful
> > to
> > > me a few years ago when I was embarking on a Linux DevOps internship.
> > >
> > > This is a Linux USER community.
> > >
> > > It includes people who work or have worked in IT with a wide array of
> > > knowledge and experience. It also includes hobbyists, home users and
> > > sole-proprietors who use Linux for work.
> > >
> > > One of these users and sole proprietors has worked as an environmental
> > > consultant since 1993 and not "building a floating island of garbage in
> > the
> > > pacific ocean."
> > >
> > > I consider Rich a friend through side conversations we've had over the
> > past
> > > 10 years I've been on the PLUG list.
> > >
> > > There are quite a few good people in the PLUG community who freely give
> > of
> > > their time, experience and knowledge be it at the Clinic, the talks and
> > in
> > > the community such as Personal Telco and working for municipal
> broadband.
> > >
> > > - Mike
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