[PLUG] Universal Personal Code

Ben Koenig techkoenig at gmail.com
Thu Jul 16 01:19:23 UTC 2020


The idea of a Universal Personal Code that gives normal users access to 
identity verification is a very good idea.  But like most good ideas it 
needs a forcing function to justify the change in behavior.


BEHOLD! Our Forcing Function has arrived!

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-twitter-cyber/twitter-silences-some-verified-accounts-after-wave-of-hacks-idUSKCN24G32Q


 From the ashes of Twitter a stronger internet shall arise :)

-Ben


On 5/5/20 9:19 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
> This is EU wide since at least 2014/2015. I remember getting it issued by
> the post office a long time ago, probably around 2010 or sooner.
>
> https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/trust-services-and-eid
>
> It allows notary quality document, encryption, transmittal, signing and
> personal authentication. Good enough for courts, banks, property
> transactions, police, almost any legal secure and verifiable
> government/citizen/business communication.
>
> It also comes with electronic post box, AKA funny looking encrypted webmail.
>
> Tomas
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2020, 10:42 John Sechrest <sechrest at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think that a true digital identity is one of the enabling technologies
>> that will transform much of our lives.
>>
>> The Estonian E-residency provides a path to having a validated digital
>> identity.
>>
>> having community based ID systems struggle with a model to keep them
>> financially viable.
>> So having some mechanism where the ID process is secure and unique is
>> important.
>>
>> It sounds like you have a tool that might be helpful for that.
>>
>> Have you explored Estonian E-residency?
>>
>> Singapore and India and the UN are starting to apply that model. And
>> Estonia has been pushing the idea across Europe.
>>
>> I would love to have my Drivers license be the foundation for a digital
>> id.
>>
>> If you like, I can introduce you to someone who help build the X-Road that
>> is one of the back end technologies to support the Estonian Digital
>> Government.
>>
>> I now believe that internet based conversations (like Youtube comments,
>> Twitter or faceboo) should be backed by a verified digital ID, so that when
>> the trolls start trolling, they get blocked permanently.  Anonymous posting
>> is a substrate for troll infection.
>>
>> So meaningful hardware to support a real Digital ID is important.
>>
>> Let me know if you want to do this talk as a Youtube/zoom talk.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 9:04 PM Keith Lofstrom <keithl at kl-ic.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Would it be possible to create a universal personal code? I mean not
>>>> part of a corporation like Google, or a nation, like the USA. It would
>>>> have to be run by a totally independent organization, one that everyone
>>>> trusts implicitly.
>>> Years ago, I had a business account at Pacific Continental
>>> Bank (now merged with Columbia Bank).  I visited the
>>> Beaverton branch perhaps two or three times a year.
>>> At least two employees would greet me with my first
>>> name when I walked in.
>>>
>>> There are people with the skill of recognizing tens of
>>> thousands of individuals on sight.  Combine that skill
>>> with vetting and training, and you have the core of an
>>> "identification company", whose mission is to verify
>>> your identity, and authenticate you to others.
>>>
>>> It would be too easy to hack online without the F2F
>>> component, but this could be a two step process, where
>>> the people at the service identify you, then implant a
>>> chip that can (indirectly) identify you by private-key-
>>> signing a transaction.  I'd combine that with another
>>> device that visually or sonically indicates that your
>>> imbedded chip is being accessed.  Of course, the chip
>>> signature and associated online information should be
>>> changed frequently; the chip might contain hundreds of
>>> digital keys, externally changeable with yet another
>>> digital programming key.
>>>
>>> For ordinary commercial and personal tasks, this would
>>> be a "nice to have"; for an emergency room doctor needing
>>> access to patient records Right Now Only, it could be a
>>> literal lifesaver.
>>>
>>> In any case, something you are, something you have, and
>>> something you know ... and NOBODY ELSE KNOWS, /not/ the
>>> name of your grade school ... are three good ways to
>>> identify you.  Somebody skilled at knowing YOU would be
>>> a good fourth way, and how we've identified each other
>>> for millenia.
>>>
>>> Full disclosure: for decades, I licensed a technology
>>> for large dense arrays of truly random, permanent bits.
>>> With modern silicon processes, tens of megabits of
>>> random bits in an area smaller than the cross section
>>> of a hair.  The bits can be permanently sequestered
>>> from external observation; one of our clients used the
>>> technique to encrypt physical fingerprints in hardware.
>>>
>>> Now that the patents have expired, it is open technology,
>>> so perhaps I should present it to a silicon equivalent of
>>> PLUG.  Next year, after we get rid of the plague, double
>>> entendre intentional.
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
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>> --
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