[PLUG] LEAN Debian install: Exploring task selection menu

[greg]

‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
On Friday, September 11, 2020 9:07 AM, Richard Owlett <rowlett at cloud85.net> wrote:

> On 09/11/2020 06:59 AM, Mike C. wrote:
> 

> > > MY QUESTIONS:
> > > 

> > > 1.  How do I find which packages are explicitly installed by checking a
> > >     specific box {primarily Mate}?
> > >     I am NOT interested in packages that were flagged "recommends".
> > >     

> > 

> > Does this not answer Q1? https://packages.debian.org/buster/mate-desktop
> 

> To the question as asked - NO.
> I was expecting some guidance into source code
> HOWEVER it may be the answer to a question a level deeper than Q1.
> 

> > > 2.  Especially when installing from an .iso on a flash drive, how do
> > >     I run apt-get before closing the installer?
> > >     {i.e. install packages in the pool directory of the iso}
> > >     

> > 

> > You can add a non-CD mount point to the apt sources list thusly,
> > If you'd rather use your CD-ROM for installing packages or updating your
> 

> I doNOT have a CD-ROM. I have an ISO image on a flash drive.
> 

> I want to install additional packages from the ISO BEFORE exiting the
> installer and booting the new system for the first time.
> 

> > system automatically with APT, you can put it in your /etc/apt/sources.list.
> > To do so, you can use the apt-cdrom
> > https://manpages.debian.org/man/8/apt-cdrom program like this:
> > 

> > apt-cdrom add
> > 

> > ==============
> > 

> > with the Debian CD-ROM in the drive.
> > You can use -d for the directory of the CD-ROM mount point or add a non-CD
> > mount point (i.e. a USB keydrive).
> > More info on apt-cdrom -
> > https://manpages.debian.org/buster/apt/apt-cdrom.8.en.html
> > A couple of more possibly useful pieces of info to support your endeavor.
> > 

> > 1.  Base Installation - " For technical reasons packages installed during
> >     the installation of the base system are installed without their “Recommends”.
> >     The rule described above only takes effect after this point in the
> >     installation process. "
> >     

> 

> A reference for that quotation?
> I have experienced other and was part of a recent discussion of that on
> debian-user [will take some searching to find relevant posts -- it was
> one of those convoluted threads ].
> 

> > 2.  When the GUI installer gets to the Package Configuration, Software
> >     Selection screen, select "manual package installation."
> >     

> 

> Elsewhere you pointed to
> [https://screenshots.debian.net/screenshot/tasksel]
> 

> Is that part of unstable &/or sid? I've never seen that screen.
> 

> > 3.  If you use dpkg instead of apt to install packages, no dependencies,
> >     recommended or suggested packages will be installed.
> >     https://screenshots.debian.net/screenshot/tasksel
> >     

> 

> I have never used, nor been directed to, anything but apt-get or
> synaptic for installing additional packages.
> 

> > 4.  If you track down the .deb files for your distro, you can get a breakout
> >     of the specific packages and their requirements.
> >     

> > 

> > e.g.
> > https://debian.pkgs.org/11/debian-main-amd64/mate-desktop_1.24.1-1_amd64.deb.html
> > Hope that's somewhat on point and helpful.
> 

> Somewhat <grin>
> You've given me some homework
> 

> PLUG: https://pdxlinux.org
> PLUG mailing list
> PLUG at pdxlinux.org
> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug

I have not seen option in the installer/taskdel to 'install additional package", that is deprecated, now the install does more meta-packagess", 


I do not use the gui install option, this might not relate to your case?
aFAIK, you have to boot into whatever DE or text base system. 



I use apt-cache, cli, hth 


some of the output of "apt-cache --help", the man page is more verbose.

"Most used commands:
  showsrc - Show source records
  search - Search the package list for a regex pattern
  depends - Show raw dependency information for a package
  rdepends - Show reverse dependency information for a package
  show - Show a readable record for the package
  pkgnames - List the names of all packages in the system
  policy - Show policy settings"


greg
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 509 bytes
Desc: OpenPGP digital signature
URL: <http://lists.pdxlinux.org/pipermail/plug/attachments/20200911/26e58ae1/attachment.asc>