[PLUG] Power Conditioner

[Jason Barnett]

The other responses are talking about the correct way to deal with the
situation, I'm not as helpful. :)
I think the term you are looking for is "Power Conditioner" or "Line
Conditioner".

Here is the first search result:
https://www.beupp.com/generator/power-line-conditioners/


On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 7:08 PM Chuck Hast <wchast at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ahh forgot the G/N bonding, in the industrial environments I
> worked in, we never saw that one it was caught prior to hotting
> up the circuit, but indeed home installations are a crap shoot.
>
> Indeed the home I bought where I now live was like that I had
> to make sure the G/N bond was solid as it looked more like an
> afterthought. Now it is a bazen thought...
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 8:54 PM Michael Barnes <barnmichael at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > You need to verify the wiring from your generator through the transfer
> > panel. Depending on how it is configured, it is possible the ground does
> > not make it all the way through when on generator. This can easily be
> > checked with one of those 3 light circuit testers. I have run into this
> in
> > the field using generators. In many generators, the ground and neutral
> are
> > not bonded. A UPS will see this as a fault and not accept the power.
> >
> > For a building, a transfer panel may be wired a couple of different ways.
> > For a large "whole house" system, the transfer panel simply switches
> > between commercial power and a big generator prior to the main service
> > panel. In that case, the ground-neutral bond takes place in the service
> > panel and all should be good. In some cases, however, the generator is
> not
> > big enough for the whole house. In those situations, there will be a sub
> > panel for the "priority" circuits. The transfer switch then toggles
> between
> > the feed from the main service panel and the generator. Sometimes, the
> > transfer panel is wired incorrectly and does not provide the G-N bond
> when
> > on the generator.
> >
> > Most modern generators are pretty well regulated, so the UPS rejecting
> due
> > to frequency or voltage is not likely. (Unless it is a cheapo Harbor
> > Freight or similar generator.)
> >
> > Working a lot of field communications activity and back-up power for
> > critical sites, I have run into this quite often.
> >
> > Check the wiring before worrying about power conditioners.
> >
> > My $.0002,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020, 18:16 Mike C. <mconnors1 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > You shouldn't have to buy anything to fix this problem. You should be
> > able
> > > to accomplish this by adjusting the governor / idle speed of the
> > generator
> > > to the rpm that produces a stable 60 hz signal.
> > >
> > > Ideally, you'd have a cheap multimeter to use to quickly and easily
> dial
> > in
> > > the rpm but if not, you could just try playing around with it until the
> > > battery accepts the signal and starts charging.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 5:56 PM Dick Steffens <dick at dicksteffens.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > During the fire event last week we were without PGE power a couple of
> > > > times. We have a generator connected to the house through a transfer
> > > > panel which worked fine for everything except the battery backup
> units
> > > > we have for our computers. They rejected the power that wasn't a
> stable
> > > > 60 Hz. I have now heard that this is not uncommon with some
> generators,
> > > > and that there are devices one can use between the wall outlet and
> the
> > > > battery backup to maintain clean power.
> > > >
> > > > Searching for these online is proving to be challenging. Some people
> > > > call them inverters. The hits I get for inverters are for converting
> > 12v
> > > > to 120v. I tried power conditioner. That seems to be what I need,
> but I
> > > > call upon the collected wisdom of this group for confirmation, or a
> > > > suitable clue stick.
> > > >
> > > > The two search hits I looked at are:
> > > >
> > > > https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=120+volt+line+conditioner
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-Conditioner-Regulation-LS606M/dp/B00006B83G
> > > >
> > > > Further thoughts appreciated.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Dick Steffens
> > > >
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