[PLUG] Fire the umn.edu IRB?

Denis Heidtmann denis.heidtmann at gmail.com
Thu Apr 22 00:02:36 UTC 2021


PSU has a policy that requires admin. review of any experiments to be
conducted on humans.  That got some people in trouble for testing
publications' response to submitted articles using bogus stuff.  I wonder
if the UNM has such a requirement, and, if so, I wonder if it was followed.

-Denis

On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 8:31 AM Ben Koenig <techkoenig at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 7:32 AM Ben Koenig <techkoenig at gmail.com> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, 7:19 AM Jason Barbier <jason at corrupted.io> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 21, 2021, at 7:02 AM, Paul Heinlein wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 21 Apr 2021, Russell Senior wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-nfs/YH%2FfM%2FTsbmcZzwnX@kroah.com/
> >> > >
> >>
> https://github.com/QiushiWu/QiushiWu.github.io/blob/main/papers/OpenSourceInsecurity.pdf
> >> > >
> >> > > Holy crap, way to step on it with golf shoes!
> >> >
> >> > I wonder if anyone has ever written anything on the subject of
> >> > Patterns of Abuse and Criminality. This looks like a version of
> >> > gaslighting, but in a tech-community context.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Paul Heinlein
> >> > heinlein at madboa.com <mailto:heinlein%40madboa.com>
> >> > 45.38° N, 122.59° W
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> >> To be fair reading the whole response from the umn address it reads more
> >> like "Fuuuuuuuuuuu, the subject caught me and is blowing up my doctoral
> >> thesis how do I save it!
> >
> >
> > By accepting the test results for what they are?
> >
> > He set out to prove a theory that OSS is inherently insecure. He tested
> > that theory.
> >
> > Test results came back negative. The OSS community protected itself from
> > malicious actors.
> >
> >
> Heyyy the pdf works when downloaded and viewed directly!
>
> But I still have trouble reading it. Maybe the CS team at UMN should have a
> language arts major clean up the grammar before they start recommending
> changes to the linux coc.
>
>
> It IS a serious college project after all.
> -Ben
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