[PLUG] Fire the umn.edu IRB?

Russell Senior russell at personaltelco.net
Fri Apr 23 12:24:42 UTC 2021


On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 5:21 AM Ben Koenig <techkoenig at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 22, 2021, 6:53 PM Russell Senior <russell at personaltelco.net>
> wrote:
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> > I would note that there is a question mark at the end of the subject
> > line and not an exclamation mark. I think there is enough evidence for
> > me to conclude the IRB made a mistake in deciding there were no human
> > subjects to consider, even if there is some narrow rule that allowed
> > them to exempt the project. I don't know any of the mechanics of why
> > that mistake was made.
> >
>
> That is exactly why I called this out as Cancel Culture.
>
> Its not about being right or wrong, its about Due Process and the way in
> which we learn from our mistakes.
>
> You are moving from accusation to execution without considering any motive
> or the real cause of the problem. Whether or not you are correct is
> irrelevant.
>
>
> Simply put - UMN made a mistake and you jump to sentencing and execution
> before asking why they did it.
>
>
> How is that any different from demanding the immediate and unconditional
> expulsion of RMS based on a leaked email with no context?
>
>
> You are running the risk of firing the wrong people. While your intentions
> may be pure the way in which you act comes with significant risks. Cancel
> Culture has never been about being right or wrong - It is about making
> decisions based on nothing more than your own personal opinions.
>
>
> I could easily adopt your attitude and demand the immediate dissolution of
> the Ubuntu project. I've seen enough evidence to know that everyone working
> for Canonical should be fired ;)
> -Ben
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> >
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