[PLUG] please stop modifying the message body

wes plug at the-wes.com
Fri Jun 4 00:55:30 UTC 2021


since the behavior has flip-flopped, I am not sure that we really know any
more about what the problem is now than we did before.

-wes

On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 5:50 PM Ben Koenig <techkoenig at protonmail.com> wrote:

> If users took responsibility for verifying the source of the email then
> this would all be irrelevant. Case in point- protonmail doesnt seem to care
> about his emails presumably because we are supposed to be using
> public/private keys to verify messages instead of waiting for google to
> give the green light.
>
> Relying on central services to verify someone's identity is definitely a
> problem, even if you don't see it.
>
> But hey, at least we know what the problem is now so thats at least
> something.
> -Ben
>
> Sent from ProtonMail mobile
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> On Jun 3, 2021, 5:31 PM, wes wrote:
>
> > I think this is an ongoing topic and probably doesn't need to be closed.
> > however you are welcome to use gmail's mute feature if you would like to
> > stop seeing it.
> >
> > the footer was removed last week or so, as a test at tom's request. since
> > then, I have seen emails from him flagged as spam, and also not flagged.
> >
> > decisions to flag or not are based on a scoring system. each indicator of
> > email legitimacy is given a numerical value, and the scores from each
> > factor found in a given email are added together. the email service
> > provider sets a threshold of how high a score has to be to flag the
> email.
> > different providers will have different factors they consider, and set
> > their own threshold.
> >
> > using linode to send emails is definitely a problem, even if you don't
> see
> > it.
> >
> > -wes
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2021 at 3:22 PM TomasK <tomas.kuchta.lists at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> FYI
> >>
> >> This email has landed in my gmail inbox, not spam - perhaps it is time
> >> to retire this super long thread - before enough people mark is as spam
> >> - LOL.
> >>
> >> Maybe gmail-machines (yes it is Matrix reference) pays attention to
> >> human replies and re-classifies ...
> >>
> >> Tomas
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2021-06-03 at 14:11 -0700, Tom wrote:
> >> > > Hello,
> >> >
> >> > Thanks for reaching out to inform us about this blocklisting. We
> >> > understand and share your concern regarding the recent listing of our
> >> > ASN with UCEPROTECT's Level 3 service. After researching the details
> >> > of
> >> > the listing, we have determined that the Level 3 service offered by
> >> > UCEPROTECT is not reputable, and we will not be paying for delisting
> >> > from their service.
> >> >
> >> > If you discovered this listing as a result of researching a bounced
> >> > email, can you please tell us the name of the mail provider which
> >> > rejected your mail? We have found that customers reaching out
> >> > regarding
> >> > this listing are really being rejected by internal RBLs of mail
> >> > providers, but are reaching out because the UCEPROTECT listing is the
> >> > only public service where they were able to find their IP address
> >> > listed. We can usually request delisting with most providers if
> >> > you're
> >> > able to provide us the following information:
> >> >
> >> > A copy of the 550 bounce code from the mail server
> >> > The domain name sending mail
> >> > Confirmation that SPF has been configured for the domain sending
> >> > mail
> >> >
> >> > We understand the importance of email deliverability and how it
> >> > impacts
> >> > our customers, which is why all Linode accounts created after
> >> > November
> >> > 2019 are incapable of sending any email by default:
> >> >
> >> > https://www.linode.com/blog/linode/a-new-policy-to-help-fight-spa
> >> > m/
> >> >
> >> > Thank you in advance for providing the requested information. We’re
> >> > happy to work towards getting your Linode’s IP address removed from
> >> > any
> >> > blocklists that may be causing deliverability issues for your mail.
> >> > Please let us know if you have any questions, or if you need anything
> >> > else.
> >>



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