[PLUG] please stop modifying the message body

Tom tgrom.automail at nuegia.net
Fri May 28 22:54:15 UTC 2021


On Wed, 26 May 2021 15:08:15 +0000
Ben Koenig <techkoenig at protonmail.com> wrote:

> I went through and compared headers from a bunch of different senders
> to the list. they all list DKIM as failed, but only yours (Tom's) get
> marked as spam routinely. I started looking up source IPs on
> mxtoolbox.com, and nuegia's (23.92.27.105) is listed, while others
> aren't. this might be a reason for the difference. unfortunately this
> particular blacklist is not one we can just request removal from,
> it's at the ISP level. -wes
> 
> That matches what gmail is saying about the messages. The TLS
> handshake succeeds, but a message is added from google claiming
> "google could not verify that it actually came from nuegia.net"
> 
> When I click "learn more" it sends me to a generic help page.
> 
> Tom, can you send another reply to this thread? I wanna see how
> protonmail handles it.
Sure thing, but before we blame Gmail and as much as Google Corporation
is a tumor on the global email system I don't think it's right to place
all the blame there at the moment.

If DKIM is indeed failing, (probably due to message body tampering) I
believe Gmail is in the right here to say that they cannot verify my
mail came from nuegia.net.

I would greatly appreciate it if the operators of this list could at
least test trying to make DKIM work. From what I read of the specs, the
'Sender' header, and my experience with using other mailing lists I do
not believe DKIM to be incompatible with mailing lists.

That being said this UCEPROTECT-L3 company is a huge scam causing
collateral damage and Google has their spam rule anomaly scores all
screwed up.

Not entirely ruling out the possibility that Google anti-competitive
actions are a part of why this is happening, as I do have an article up
that criticizes Google Chrome and the WhatWG. Just not claiming it's
the whole reason.

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