From dmandel at pdxLinux.org  Thu Mar 20 19:14:34 2003
From: dmandel at pdxLinux.org (David Mandel)
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 11:14:34 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [PLUG-JOBS] HELP WANTED: Senior Linux Technologist to Join Startup
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0303201100090.8169-100000@sco302.DavidMandel.com>

William J Ziebell <william at ziebelltech.com> tells me that Ubiquity Net
is looking for a Senior Linux Technologist.

> Preferred Skills:
> Experience with UNIX/Linux software development Kernel and User level.
> Experience in Embedded Software development.
> Expert in C language.
> Software development in networked environments.
> Experience in computer and network security.
> Experience with hardware design and debugging.

If interested contact:
> Contact Name: William J Ziebell
> Email:  <mailto:william-web at ubiquitynet.us> william-web at ubiquitynet.us
> URL:  <http://www.ubiquitynet.us> http://www.ubiquitynet.us
> Phone: (503) 939-3756
> Job Reference #: Linux.01

                                          Sincerely,
                                          David Mandel
                                          Chief Activist
                                          Portland Linux/Unix Group
                                          1440 NE 59th
                                          Portland, Oregon 97213
                                          (360) 260-2066 at work
                                          (541) 730-5285 cell

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                          Other Affiliations
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From brian at ipns.com  Tue Mar 18 00:40:24 2003
From: brian at ipns.com (Brian J. Smith)
Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 16:40:24 -0800
Subject: [PLUG-JOBS] HELP
Message-ID: <004d01c2ece8$35910720$040a4fc6@win2k.ipns.com>

Looking for Part-time too full-time web developer.

Skill set's must include the following.

Perl, PHP, MySQL..

Please send r?sum?'s and example URL's to info at ipns.com

Best Regards,

Brian J. Smith
IPNS, Inc.
503.205.4767
brian at ipns.com
www.ipns.com

Ranked by the "Oregon Business Journal 2002"
Top 25 Technology Providers,
4th largest ISP in the state of Oregon.




From patrick at WebArchitecture.com  Sun Mar 23 21:08:13 2003
From: patrick at WebArchitecture.com (Patrick Beart)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 13:08:13 -0800
Subject: [PLUG-JOBS] HELP
In-Reply-To: <004d01c2ece8$35910720$040a4fc6@win2k.ipns.com>
References: <004d01c2ece8$35910720$040a4fc6@win2k.ipns.com>
Message-ID: <p05200f00baa3d28377ec@[192.168.3.1]>

>Looking for Part-time too full-time web developer.
>
>Skill set's must include the following.
>
>Perl, PHP, MySQL..


	This isn't "web development", then. ... It's programming.




Patrick Beart
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From lschuman at earthlink.net  Sun Mar 23 23:16:30 2003
From: lschuman at earthlink.net (Leo Schuman)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:16:30 -0800
Subject: [PLUG-JOBS] HELP
In-Reply-To: <p05200f00baa3d28377ec@[192.168.3.1]>
References: <004d01c2ece8$35910720$040a4fc6@win2k.ipns.com> <p05200f00baa3d28377ec@[192.168.3.1]>
Message-ID: <3E7E404E.8060600@earthlink.net>


Patrick Beart wrote:
>> Looking for Part-time too full-time web developer.
>>
>> Skill set's must include the following.
>>
>> Perl, PHP, MySQL..
> 
> 
> 
>     This isn't "web development", then. ... It's programming.

"Web development" generally implies server-side programming (PHP, SQL, 
CFML, JSP, ASP, Perl, etc.).  "Web design" generally implies client-side 
HTML, CSS, non-programmatic Flash, and Javascript.  Web development 
involves programming, web design generally does not (HTML and CSS are 
not programming languages, they're markup languages).  Of course, 
there's no hard line between the two.

By comparison, the term "application development" has applied for years 
to work done in higher level client-server languages/platforms (e.g., 
Visual Basic, Powerbuilder, Delphi, etc.), in contrast to "software 
development" done in lower-level languages working closer to the OS 
itself (e.g., C, C++, Java, etc.).  And, "web development" implies a 
similar level of complexity to "application development", but scripting 
against the web application platform of choice, instead of the older 
client-server platforms.

So, Brian's job posting seems to be using proper terminology -- "web 
developer" -- at least to my eyes.

... my .02 and YMMV,

Leo

_______________________________________

Leo M. Schuman, JD MCI+D
CODEPATTERN SOFTWARE SERVICES
http://www.codepattern.com
503/750-9923
_______________________________________





From schluntz at workofstone.com  Sun Mar 23 23:45:51 2003
From: schluntz at workofstone.com (Sean J. Schluntz)
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 15:45:51 -0800
Subject: [PLUG-JOBS] HELP 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 23 Mar 2003 13:08:13 PST."
             <p05200f00baa3d28377ec@[192.168.3.1]> 
Message-ID: <21242.1048463151@workofstone.com>

In message <p05200f00baa3d28377ec@[192.168.3.1]>, Patrick Beart writes:
>>Looking for Part-time too full-time web developer.
>>
>>Skill set's must include the following.
>>
>>Perl, PHP, MySQL..
>
>
>	This isn't "web development", then. ... It's programming.

Not to cause a stir but I see that description as "web development"
and "web programming" quite often.  "programming" is to general, there
are lots of programmers out there who know Perl and MySQL but don't
know web stuff.

Different from web designer or web artist who can do front end but
no back end.

-Sean



From wcooley at nakedape.cc  Mon Mar 24 02:13:00 2003
From: wcooley at nakedape.cc (Wil Cooley)
Date: 23 Mar 2003 18:13:00 -0800
Subject: [PLUG-JOBS] HELP
In-Reply-To: <3E7E404E.8060600@earthlink.net>
References: <004d01c2ece8$35910720$040a4fc6@win2k.ipns.com>
	 <p05200f00baa3d28377ec@[192.168.3.1]>  <3E7E404E.8060600@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <1048471980.12251.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>


Guys, this list is for announcements, not discussion.  Please take this
to the general list plug at pdxlinux.org or the "talk" list
plug-talk at pdxlinux.org.

Wil
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