[PLUG-TALK] Re: [PLUG] OT License plates and covers.

[Jeme A Brelin]

On Thu, 11 Dec 2003, Russ Johnson wrote:
> Again, I have no problem staying out of the way. Sidewalks work well.

They're great if you want to go around in circles on one block and travel
on foot.  I like having more options than that.  Crossing the street
shouldn't be a life-threatening activity and shouldn't take three minutes.

> So you are saying that it should take me over an hour to get to work?

No, I'm saying that you have chosen your work and home poorly.

> I want to travel from Wilsonville to Troutdale at 2am, without using my
> own vehicle. How am I to get there?

Why can't you use your own vehicle?

> There's also a big difference in how those things are paid for. Roads,
> for the most part, are paid for through registration fees and gas taxes.
> (http://www.odot.state.or.us/ruftf/pdfs/HowOrRoadsFinanced.pdf)

You're misreading the document.

This is a document about the taxes collected specifically for the State
Highway Fund and how those funds are distributed.  This is not a
comprehensive document identifying the sources for all road improvement
funds.

The State Highway Fund is just one small part of the road-building revenue
system.

> Parks are paid for by the municipality they exist in.

There are state and national parks as well.  I don't see how this is
relevant.

> > > If the operator of a train, car or other large moving object is
> > > following the rules laid out for said vehicle, and some nit-wit
> > > walks in front of said vehicle where there is no way for the large
> > > moving object to avoid said nit-wit, then the operator of said large
> > > moving object is most definately NOT at fault.
> >
> > Wow.  You're some kind of fascist.  You really believe the law
> > supercedes human values?  You think that the law is infallible in its
> > ability to judge right and wrong behavior?
>
> Where did I say any of that?

You wrote that a person who follows the law is not responsible for any
deaths that might be the result of their actions, didn't you?  That the
law makes the person innocent of any harm?

This implies to me that the law is of higher value than human life.  I
should HOPE that human life is VERY valuable to you and so you must have
enormous faith in the law to the point of a believed infallibility.

> So the nit-wit has the right to dance on the train tracks, and make the
> train wait until the music in his head stops?

No, he should be killed for that.  He should be run down and squished to
pieces because he's mentally ill.

In fact, we should have more traps laid out around the city to catch
people that are too stupid to live.

Better yet, let's just release hungry wild animals downtown so those who
are too stupid or incapable of protecting themselves will die.

> > It's true that cars cannot interact with people safely and still
> > appear practical.
>
> In your opinion.

I think the record shows it's fact.  Automobiles kill many people every
single day.

> In your opinion.
>
> Opinions vary.

Yes, but some opinions are supported by fact and others are not.  The fact
is that automobiles are the most dangerous mode of transport in use today.
They kill more people PER USER than any other mode of transport.  And many
of the people killed by them aren't even using automobiles.

So if you are NOT of the opinion that they are dangerous, you're denying
reality and out of your gourd.

J.
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