[PLUG-TALK] Personal attacks

[Jeme A Brelin]

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003, anonymous wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 17:36, Mark wrote:
> > anonymous wrote:
> > Who would hire him
>
> > knock it off.
>
> So Brelin and others can say things I don't like and refuse to leave me
> alone even if I don't sign an on topic posting on plug, but I can't call
> him or others on it?

You're welcome to call me on it.  But that's not what you did that got you
smacked down by Mark.

> Do I have to use a third party email address to post anonymously because
> people will see robinson-west.com as negative and proceed to harass me?

The only way they're not going to see your address as negative is by
reading something sensible under it.  Changing the address doesn't do
anything to change others' opinion.

> Brelin has been on a role today.

Just my same role.  Oh, you mean "roll".  Got it.

> His comments that only fools alias rm to rm -i is a bit on the well,
> rude side.

I think you'll find just about everybody agreed on that point.

> I doubt he works well with others if he has a negative attitude towards
> "imcompetent IT staff."

I do have a negative attitude toward incompetent staff.  As people, I
respect them, but I do suggest that they are helped along to more suitable
work.

And don't quote me as making a typo if I didn't make it.

> He doesn't come off as much of a team player.

I've been called worse.

> It isn't so much what he says, it's how he says it that is so bad.

Oh, I think you have problems what I write at least as much as how I write
it.

> Especially with the number of Linux distributions that by default alias
> rm to rm -i, his rudeness is especially striking in one of today's
> particular plug rant threads.

Again, you'll note that every person who responded agreed with me and it
was pretty good company all around.

I don't know of any system that ships with rm as an alias.  Especially
since aliases are handled by the shell and there are lots of ways and
places to set them.

> I don't appreciate the robinsonian rant comment either.

I can dig that.  I just felt like I was going off on the nature of people
in an off-topic kind of way as you often do.

> The last thing someone who hopes to have a career as a Linux pro needs
> is an individual in the local Linux community giving Linux pros an anti
> social character.  If Linux is taken to mean job loss for all the
> incompetents, nobody will want it around.

Yeah, "the incompetents" are shaking in their boots.  But they should be
anyway.

> Maybe I should have let it go, though it upsets me that the least has
> done to respect what posting without signing and joking that I should be
> called Mr. Underhill suggests.

And what does it suggest?

It suggests to me that you would have us feign ignorance instead of
dealing with the concerns straight-on.

If you want to establish a new vector for your involvement with this
community, I would recommend a statement of apology (if you see that one
is fitting) and a statement of future intent.  That would be the adult
thing to do and people could respect that.

Putting on a false moustache and speaking in a funny accent isn't going to
fool anybody or win new friends.

> I'm not on the lists for personal criticism and antagonism.

Well, if you didn't do anything that might spawn criticism, then you
wouldn't get any.  But I don't think that's really possible for anyone.

J.
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