[PLUG-TALK] Re: PLUG-talk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 1

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>   Is it possible that all you care about when it comes to death 
>   is being in complete control of your mortality?  Have you ever
>   considered that there may be a God who wants you to give Him
>   control?
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> Then he can take control, and there's not a thing I can do about it. 
> It's just like believing in free will. Either God knows everything that 
> has and will happened, or he doesn't. If you believe in free will, then 
> you can't believe God knows what will happen. The two are mutually 
> exclusive.
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   Giving God control constitutes a free choice.  Life support machines
   can be extraordinary means unless there is a good chance of you coming 
   off of them healthy.  If you aren't going to be healthy anytime soon 
   and you will die shortly, being on life support could ease your passing.
   Depending on what's wrong, even life support will not lengthen your 
   life.  To assume that people can't enjoy their lives while on life
   support is an assumption that I won't make.  We are trying to judge 
   life support with limited knowledge.

   Putting limits on God is putting limits on what a higher power than
   us can do and can be.  Assuming God is limited to the same rules
   of time that we are is an assumption that I myself don't make.  
   Why should God force us to make the right decisions if it pleases 
   Him to see us make those decisions on our own using the gifts of 
   faith and understanding that we have received from Him?

   "If you are the Christ, take yorself down from that cross."
   You are trying to put limits and demands on God the way 
   those who called for Christ's cruxifiction did if you 
   say that God can't be omnificient.  Just because you know 
   of a a good or bad choice, does that mean you never let 
   someone else make their own choice when it comes to that 
   particular decision?  Even if you make your opinion known 
   on something, people can and do make their own decisions.  
   Whose to say that God can't make His will known in a way 
   that people can and often do ignore?  Saying God doesn't 
   exist is an excuse and an assumption.  Saying that God 
   doesn't care about our decisions is another excuse often 
   offered when the former one doesn't hold.  Worshipping
   free will itself doesn't seem as wise to me as worshipping 
   the one who gave us the free will, then again maybe that's
   just me ;-)

   Why live under the assumption that there isn't a God who
   wants us to live a certain way?  Why assume that God 
   won't judge us by how we live if you can't prove that 
   assumption, especially if He will judge us eventually?
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