[PLUG-TALK] Where to find legit used copy of M$ Visual C 4.0?

[Doug Davis]

You can download the Express editions of Visual Studio 2005 for free and you
shouldn’t have to register to use them. I don't know if they do Visual C,
but they do Visual C++, so I would imagine ANSI C should work as well. 

I've only used it for one class where it was required, so I am by no means
an expert. I think unless you are doing a lot of work with the CLR functions
of MS C, then everything should work fine with the Express edition and if
you are porting, you want to get rid of that anyhow. Its worth the 80Mb
download to try and see if it meets your need anyhow.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/

Doug

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[mailto:plug-talk-bounces at lists.pdxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Keith Lofstrom
Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 3:21 AM
To: Larry Brigman
Cc: keithl at keithl.com; Off-topic and potentially flammable discussion
Subject: Re: [PLUG-TALK] Where to find legit used copy of M$ Visual C 4.0?


To the rest of you offended by the mere mention of M$ on PLUG-talk
... well, er, you are right.  I hope to escape the slime pit soon!
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On 7/7/07, Keith Lofstrom <keithl at kl-ic.com> wrote:
> A few years ago, I ditched all my copies of Microsoft compilers and
> tools.  Now, as the first step in migrating a large program suite
> to GNU C++ on windows and then to Linux, I need to find a copy of
> M$ Visual C++ 4.0, the environment the app was written for.  Does
> anyone have a copy (with key AND license) that they are willing to
> sell to me?  I don't want to bend any laws or legitimate license
> restrictions, so I want a bona fide copy with the original disks.
> With luck, in a few months the software will be ported and I won't
> be needing M$ again.

On Sat, Jul 07, 2007 at 03:44:50PM -0700, Larry Brigman wrote:
> There is another way.  An MSDN account.  This allows you to
> download, install and use old programs that are no longer
> available.  If you have a newer version (any paid version)
> of the Visual tools suite, an MSDN account gets you where you
> want to be.  I had to do this several years ago when I was in
> the same boat.  We had > Visual Studio 6 and a company MSDN
> account that we used to download the Visual C++ 4.0 get the 
> job done.

It's late and maybe I don't know the right place to look at
the MSDN website, but it appears from:

http://www.microsoft.com/products/info/list.aspx?view=22&pcid=515c9859-958b-
4433-b4f9-91f37258ca2f&type=old&sortcolumn=0&sort=0&page99=0

... that they don't go back very far;  one or two versions perhaps.
Is there someplace to find the older stuff?  Beyond the cost of the
Visual tools suite ($300?) and MSDN Library ($200/yr), what does
this cost?

I would rather buy a PLUG member's old version of Vis.C++ 4.0 for
$80 or so, and keep the money within our community, if I can do
so legitimately.  At least I don't have to inform Redmond of my  
existence if I do that;  I worry that the recent stuff requires
net activation, and may barf if run with a VMWare W2Ksp4 instance.

Keith

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