[PLUG-TALK] a superset of censorship

glen e. p. ropella gepr at tempusdictum.com
Sun Jan 4 01:03:00 UTC 2009


Thus spake Someone circa 01/03/2009 04:32 PM:
> Having difficulty with not liking me Glenn?

No, actually.  I'm fine with not liking you.  But, then again, I don't
even know you.  So, I neither like nor dislike you.

> Do you have to like everyone and be 
> liked by them?

No.  In fact, there are many people who don't like me and many people I
don't like.  But I _do_ make very concerted attempts to respect people I
don't know (and often don't like).  I don't have to like you to respect
you ... not that I do or don't respect you ... I'm just making a point.

> I didn't take a moment where noone else had to
> help so and so on plug figure out what's wrong
> with his mail server.  Nope, that wasn't me.  

Dude!  I was the one suggesting that you do actually contribute to the
community!  I _might_ have been an ally in your trolling.  But if you
insist on making everyone an enemy, well, there's not much I can do
about that.

> If people want to be rational and not call
> me a homophobe, that would be awfully nice.

To be honest, my guess is that those people don't know whether or not
you're actually a homophobe.  But they work with what they have.  And
what they have is the vitriol and hate you're spewing all over the
mailing list.  So, even if they're over-reaching a bit when they call
you a homophobe, I'm ok with their accusations because you sure talk
like a homophobe.  And I should know.  I'm one myself.

I really get the heebie-jeebies when an openly gay person playfully
teases me.  It's taken decades for me to fully realize how such a
reaction comes from deeply ingrained interpersonal habits and patterns.
 In college, one of my friends took great joy in "coming on" to me just
to see me react.  Even then, however, I recognized it for what it was,
playful ribbing, no less innocent than teasing someone for the type of
truck they drive.

Does this mean I'm a little bit gay (or bisexual) myself?  Who knows?
Who cares?  But I do know that it's disrespectful, insulting, and
_should_ be illegal to treat gay people any differently than I treat
anyone else.  And I can tell you that, regardless of whether I like or
respect you, if you mistreat any gay person in my presence, I will
likely act in an attempt to set you straight.  Included in such
mistreatment is the textual diarrhea you've splattered all over this
list.  To ignore your abusive behavior is to condone that behavior.

> Nope, everyone wants to sidestep the issue
> by labeling me a taker and a bigot.  Well
> fine, I'll just keep posting to this list
> and enjoy keeping people on their toes.

You really are thick headed aren't you?  Your posts to this list are NOT
achieving your stated objective.  By definition, this means you are
_insane_.  What's the definition of "insane"?  Doing the same thing over
and over again, expecting different results.

But, actually, that's OK.  We're all a little bit insane just like we're
all a little bit gay.... yes, even you.  You're at least a little bit
gay.  Let's hope you learn that before you die and have to face your god.

-- 
glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://tempusdictum.com




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