[PLUG-TALK] Robinson's anti-GLBT Racism

[MJang]

On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 12:15 -0800, Someone wrote:
> On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 08:35 -0800, MJang wrote:
> > On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 21:03 -0800, Someone wrote: 
> > > The American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric
> > > Association say that change is not possible—if you’re homosexual, don’t
> > > attempt to develop your heterosexual potential. It’s just not going to
> > > work.
> > 
> > Over the past few hours (since just before 2pm yesterday), Mr. Robinson
> > (or his alter-ego, "Someone") has posted 28 messages. The rest of us
> > have posted 12. I suspect the bit ratio is even more overwhelming.
> > 
> > Even if they were just links that Mr. Robinson is trying to spray at us
> > like a wild firehose, it suggests that he collects keeps said links in
> > his barn, just to throw at rational people like us.
> > 
> > One of the risks associated with the core dump that Mr. Robinson has
> > done is that he'll include snippets like the one above. Yes, he'll say
> > that it's been refuted by his biased organization. But there it is,
> > posted by Mr. Robinson himself.
> > 
> > In addition, there was this bit of his from 
> > 
> > On Fri, 2009-01-02 at 13:59 -0800, Someone wrote:
> > > On Thu, 2009-01-01 at 23:34 -0800, Mark Turner wrote:
> > > > Just like I wouldn't hang around anyone spending their time being
> > > > racists, bigots or hateful assholes. I can't spend anymore time on
> > > > this list with the likes of Michael Robinson around.
> > snip
> > > I'm not racist. I am very glad that African Americans don't
> > > have to sit in the back of the bus anymore. Segregation was
> > > wrong. Opposing homosexual "BEHAVIOR" is very different from
> > > being a racist. "BEHAVIOR" is a choice, skin color is not.
> > > The bible is quite clear on homosexual "BEHAVIOR" being wrong.
> > > The loving thing to do is to admonish the sinner, not promote
> > > the sin. What I am "spouting" is not hate. I said good
> > > riddance to the people Keith talked about because of their
> > > "BEHAVIOR." Marriage is well defined, it does not include
> > > homosexual couples
> > 
> > Whenever a religious - whatchamacallit (it's also known as something
> > with appendages that can be tightened on a bolt by hand) goes into this
> > type of spew - well, time to address him directly - 
> > 
> > ********
> > 
> > Mr. Robinson, I won't even go into the condescending connotations of the
> > comparisons you've made - between your view of homosexuals and African
> > Americans. To quote:
> > 
> > 
> > > I'm not racist. I am very glad that African Americans don't
> > > have to sit in the back of the bus anymore. Segregation was
> > > wrong. Opposing homosexual "BEHAVIOR" is very different from
> > > being a racist.
> > 
> > >'"BEHAVIOR" is a choice, skin color is not.'
> > 
> > It sounds like you're saying that you'd be racist if African Americans
> > could change their skin pigmentation.
> > 
> > Furthermore, you suggest that GLBT Americans are such because of their
> > behavior. Yet in the article you cite, you admit that pre-eminent
> > psychological authorities say that "change is not possible". In either
> > case, my understanding is that it's in the genes.
> > 
> > I therefore suggest to you that your bias against homosexuals is simply
> > racism against the GLBT community.
> > 
> > *******
> > 
> > At some point, if there's time, I'd add this to the previous list of his
> > inconsistencies in my "Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood" post.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> > 
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> The reference I suggested you look at which you did not is strongly in
> favor of the opinion that homosexuality is changeable.

I have looked at some of your references, including the one suggested.
Despite their protests, the group you cited has not changed the view of
the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric
Associations. 

Years ago, the APAs admitted that they were wrong - and now say that
homosexuality is a normal condition. In the face of that fact (which I
quoted from your message), everything else that you've cited has - no
credibility.

As you are a Linux user, you clearly have some degree of intelligence. I
therefore can only retain my conclusion that you are an anti-GBLT
racist.

At last count, you've posted somewhat over 40 messages this weekend on
this topic. You've even taken the time to harass Andrew from Tacoma. He
came in with a very friendly message for all of us. 

You responded by beating up his fiancee.

I admire Andrew's restraint. If someone had beaten up on my fiancee, I
would be mad.

So back to you - you clearly you have the time. Yet, you have not
responded to my "Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood" message, which suggests to
me that you at least do not know how to refute what I've said about your
inconsistencies. Perhaps the other poster who called you a hypocrite is
correct.

Thanks,
Mike