[PLUG-TALK] Alan Turing is an isolated tragedy...

[Jason Dagit]

On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 8:38 PM, Michael Robinson
<plug_1 at robinson-west.com>wrote:

>
> You have an agenda, and no compunction about trying to attribute
> homosexual experience to everyone you talk to Jason Dagit.  Why
> you have this sick desire to label me as having had homosexual
> sex is beyond me.


Relax and take a deep breath.

For starters, I can't recall the last time I attributed homosexual
experience to anyone besides you, save for cases where someone told me for
sure that they have such experience.  Second, you have to keep in mind that
I don't see it as sick or offensive if you did or do have homosexual
experience, but from your reaction you clearly take it as an insult.  I
thought you said that there was nothing wrong with homosexuals and that you
accept them as long as they are not practicing?  Your response makes me
really question how much you meant that.  You see, even if you had
homosexual experience I would assume from your essays on the list that you
are not currently practicing, therefore shouldn't any past experience be
perfectly acceptable as something you've already dealt with?

Also in my defense, you speak about the subject with such expertise and you
even told me I should talk to former homosexuals and so I guess I assumed
you had some experience.  It must be the way you're presenting your case.
So if you don't have any experience about homosexuality, how can you be the
authority?  Won't your audience question what you tell them about it?  Won't
they ask how you know it's wrong and bad?


> Every national organization has an agenda, or it wouldn't exist.  I just
> happen to agree with Narth where I don't agree with the APA or the AMA.


The corollary to this argument is that people or organizations which agree
with you are correct and ones that do not are incorrect.  I hope we can
agree this is a narrow world view.


>
> I have no "experience" with it and I don't want any.  Just because
> someone says something is good, that doesn't make it so.  You have
> no proof that homosexual sex is good.


In this context, what would qualify as proof to you?


>  Do you honestly think I'm afraid of you?


What?  Where does this fit in with the discussion?  I don't think anyone
here is trying to scare you.  I think you are afraid of certain things, but
I don't think you're afraid of people on this mailing list.  I certainly
hope no one is sending you threats.  That would be incredibly wrong.


>  If I was afraid
> of you, I would have given up a long time ago.  I'm not afraid of
> radical gay activists who want every homosexual in the world to
> engage in homosexual sex acts.  I am going to keep criticizing
> radical gay activists and their sympathizers for as long as it
> takes to see gay marriage and civil unions overturned and I
> know I'm in the silent majority on this issue.  Gays and lesbians
> who living celibate lives, I sympathize with you.  For those who
> aren't, heaven help you.


I encourage you to consider a more balanced view.

Jason
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