[PLUG-TALK] A 5 bit interrogation

Vedanta Teacher orevedantateacher at gmail.com
Wed Aug 3 15:00:52 PDT 2016

Hummm, there are reasons my email is OreVedantaTeacher.
*Vedanta* says that it takes Consciousness to perceive anything,
otherwise it would be like an advanced camera with no one to
look through the view finder. It also says that the lower mind
makes primary inferences of an observation by comparing it
to previously observed phenomenon. From there, if necessary,
it is sent upward to the intellect.
Its too complex and detailed for this form but I can point you the
right direction if you are interested in concepts of perception &
the mind.
Paul W.

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Keith Lofstrom <keithl at kl-ic.com> wrote:

> Devotees of ancient television shows might remember the
> surreal 1967-1968 British science-fiction/mystery/drama,
> "The Prisoner".
> In James V. Stone's fascinating 2012 book about
> computational vision systems: "Vision and Brain - How we
> Perceive the World", he introduces his chapters with
> "impressions", little prose poems about what follows.
> For chapter 7, "The Color of Information", about recoding
> color information in the retina and visual cortex for
> processing efficiency, he provides a vignette resembling
> the opening lines of a "Prisoner" episode, recoded as
> an information theoretic interrogation.
> The first lines are the imprisoned secret agent, the
> indented lines are an disembodied ethereal voice:
> ----------
> Who is number one?
>      You are number six.
> What do you want?
>      Information.
> You won't get it.
>      Given that you had two alternatives, to agree or
>      disagree to provide information, your negative
>      response has just given us exactly one bit of
>      information, thank you.
> Well, you won't be getting any more.
>      Given that you had two alternatives, to tell us you
>      will or you won't provide more information, your
>      response gives us another bit, thank you again.
> That's a low-down, two-bit trick to play.
>      We already knew that, so your response has given
>      us no information.
> I'm glad to hear it.
>      Given that you had two alternatives, to be glad or
>      not to be glad, your response gives us another bit;
>      please continue.
> I can see that the only way for me not to provide
> information is to be silent.
>      Fair enough. Was that your final bit?
> It was.
>      Apparently not ...
> ----------
> Stone's contention is that the visual system exists to
> infer models of the external world, not depict or store
> images.  Every step of visual processing extracts and
> compacts information prior to Bayesian inference, while
> minimizing metabolically expensive neuron firings.
> Keith
> --
> Keith Lofstrom          keithl at keithl.com
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