[PLUG-TALK] Gary Johnson at Benson Hotel, Thursday 6 to 9pm

David Mandel dmandel at davidmandel.com
Thu Nov 3 20:00:48 UTC 2016


I will be skipping PLUG to go see Gary Johnson tonight.  Like Paul, I
try to see all these people when they come around whether I support
them or not. Saw Eugene McCarthy twice at PSU.  Also, saw Robert
Kennedy at PSU a couple weeks before he was assassinated.  Remember
standing for hours and hours in 10 degree weather in Missoula, Montana
to see Sargent Shriver when he was running with George McGovern.
Also, went to see Bill Clinton who gave a terrific speech from the bed
of a pickup truck at Lincoln Grade School in Corvallis a couple blocks
from my house.  That was when Hillary was running in the 2008 primary.
I haven't ever gotten to see a Republican presidential or vice
presidential candidate, but I have seen several Republican Senators.
Once  shook hands with Mark Hatfield and actually had a brief
one-on-one conversation with Gordon Smith.

David

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Paul Heinlein <heinlein at madboa.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 31 Oct 2016, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
>
>> Hesitantly getting political on plug-talk.  Hear me out:
>
> We're all big boys and girls here. News that a bona fide presidential
> candidate is giving a public speech in the area should always be
> welcome.
>
> Only extreme (and unkind) partisanship would not welcome that sort of
> news.
>
> I happen to have promised my time elsehwere this Thursday, otherwise
> I'd go, even though I've already sent in my ballot (without a vote Mr.
> Johnson). I attended a Sanders speech earlier this year. I'd make an
> effort to see Trump or Clinton. I saw Bill Clinton in 1992 (in Denver,
> film of which was later used in the movie "In the Line of Fire").
> Heck, I even went to go see Dan Quayle during the 1988 election cycle.
>
> Advocacy is a different issue entirely, but I for one thank you for
> spreading the word about him being in town.
>
>> Hillary Clinton will win Oregon, even if she dies of a
>> stroke before the election.  Most of Oregon does what
>> television commands, and votes reflexively Democratic.
>> That's the way it is, for now.
>
> This is increasingly out of date. An ever-smaller number of people
> watch television for news.
>
> Network TV news is watched mostly by older folks (who nationally are
> less rather than more likely to vote Democratic). Even cable news
> networks are struggling to maintain, much less grow, their audiences.
> Without the Spectacle that is Donald Trump, their audiences would have
> been far lower this year.
>
> That's not to say people don't lazily fall into group think, but
> large television networks are losing, not gaining, audiences.
> Web-based echo chambers seem the more likely culprit these days.
>
> --
> Paul Heinlein <> heinlein at madboa.com <> http://www.madboa.com/
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