[PLUG-TALK] Irony repeats

Eldo Varghese eldo at poningru.com
Mon May 20 16:52:29 UTC 2024


I really should leave these kind of racist thoughts and ideas alone, 
since as Shaw says "Never wrestle with pigs, you both get dirty and the 
pig likes it".

On 5/17/24 4:26 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> Why go to all that trouble.
> 
> Just unplug the camera and let them pontificate.  They won't even know it's
> not turned on.
> 
> Seriously the issue today, as much as people want to pretend it doesn't
> exist, is simply that of overpopulation.
> 
> As the world population grows resources get scarce and people fight over
> them.
> 
> The reason Global Warming didn't happen for the first couple hundred years
> of the Industrial Revolution is because the
> Environment has the capability of absorbing and processing quite a lot of
> pollution.
> 
> So you run your lawnmower or car and the plants grow more and use up the
> additional carbon dioxide and you get to pollute
> And the plants get more CO2   Everyone is happy
If the rest of the earth consumed like the US population does, we'd need 
5.1 earths (2018 numbers, it's only gotten worse).
US fossil fuel consumption is not sustainable. Plants cant absorb it all.
I'll just leave this link to an appropriate graph:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:20211026_Cumulative_carbon_dioxide_CO2_emissions_by_country_-_bar_chart.svg
> 
> But today, even though the developed countries (like the United States and
> Europe) have put a lid on the excessive babymaking,

https://news.osu.edu/falling-birth-rate-not-due-to-less-desire-to-have-children/
the lid on 'excessive babymaking' is due to the current reproductive age 
generation not having a good outlook on the future. Mostly due to the 
boomer generation messing up the environmental, financial, social and 
political future of this country.

  and our native
> populations are either remaining steady or shrinking - the poor countries
> like Mexico have not
> 
> And why not?  What else is there to do in Mexico but reproduce?  It's not
> like there's much future in the country unless your life's goal is to raise
> tomatoes for the US to consume.I think you will find that most folks dont live to serve the US.
> 
> The same goes in Eastern Europe, and in the Mid East.   The Mid East
> especially is a horrendously sad place.  They have the money coming in that
> every last one of them could be living a wonderful lifestyle, with the arts,
> the sciences, indoor plumbing, modern cities, air conditioning, and the rest
> of it.  
What you are describing is colonialism based destruction of the 
millennium old political and social infrastructure of these countries 
due to colonialism whether modern or otherwise.
But instead they would rather kill each other over a few square
> miles of worthless dirt in Israel that allegedly some guy walked around on
> preaching to people to not kill each other over 2000 years ago.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat#Release_of_U.S._government_records_and_official_acknowledgement

I think they have other reasons to not like western countries and folks 
allied to us.
> 
> So let's get the babymaking cranked up full blast.  Gotta keep supplying a
> new crop of cannon fodder for the next generation's war that was just the
> last generation's war and the generations before that war.  Gotta keep our
> women pregnant until they all look like worn out vacuum sweeper bags, and
> gotta keep killing off the seed of their wombs the second it matures.

> 
> And when you run out of places to stand no problem just export your extra
> people to the wealthy countries.  Why bother making your own country wealthy
> by curbing the breeding.  Might get the Catholic God mad at you.

> 
> I'm not a MAGAoot but I definitely understand where the "build the wall"
> sentiment comes from.I dont know if you are a MAGAhat or not, but your ideas seem very 
similar to other MAGAhats. Including this particularly xenophobic one.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-16/trump-s-border-wall-is-a-monument-to-white-supremacy
> 
> Ted
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PLUG-talk <plug-talk-bounces at lists.pdxlinux.org> On Behalf Of Keith
> Lofstrom
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2024 11:40 PM
> To: Off-topic and potentially flammable discussion
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> Subject: Re: [PLUG-TALK] Irony repeats
> 
> Politics, feh.  Liberal, Conservative, Progressive?
> 
> I'm an Engineer.  I don't think anyone should pontificate in front of a
> television camera who cannot repair one.
> 
> I'm not a "Political activist", or I would arrange things so that camera
> repair was necessary.
> 
> Keith L.
> 


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