On Thu, 1 Aug 2019, King Beowulf wrote: > Close G-E. On Xfce (and others) got to Settings Manager -> Session and > Startup -> Application Autostart tab. See if any of the gnome keyring > stuff is checked. unchack all. Then check Session tab and quit any keyring > programs. Ed, Well, there's a bunch of them, but none are checked. Thanks, Rich