[PLUG] File sharing over a MINIMALIST ad-hoc WiFi{802.11} network - was once {Re: Wireless home LAN ...}ty? WiFi vs Bluetooth?

Russell Senior russell at personaltelco.net
Sat Aug 10 19:26:07 UTC 2019


You could, of course, buy a copy of the ISO standard and start
implementing: https://www.iso.org/obp/ui/#iso:std:iso-iec:7498:-1:ed-1:v2:en

It's only 178 CHF, plus shipping. ANSI sells a version as a PDF:
https://webstore.ansi.org/Standards/ISO/ISOIEC74981994 That's only $209 and
you could avoid the shipping charges. I'm sure you would learn a lot.

On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 12:01 PM Russell Senior <russell at personaltelco.net>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 8:55 AM Richard Owlett <rowlett at cloud85.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I have read more and made some progress ;}
>> I am using Debian 9.8 {Stretch} with MATE desktop on two Lenovo laptops.
>> As I used Networkmanager to create the ad-hoc network, I only have WEP
>> *NOT* WPA at the moment [but have info on doing WPA].
>> [see
>>
>> https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WiFi_can_scan.2C_but_not_connect_using_NetworkManager_.28Debian_9_Stretch.29
>> on how to overcome a connection problem.]
>>
>> My stated goal is file sharing on a peer-to-peer network with exactly
>> two nodes. The unstated purpose of chosen method is understanding
>> networks. Traveling down memory lane to early 60's, I can see this as a
>> Sophomore/Junior E.E. lab {Cornell's B.S.E.E. program was 5 years at the
>> time ;]
>>
>
> Nothing on wireless involves two nodes. Each station broadcasts. It's only
> happenstance if only two stations are receiving, it could easily be more.
>
> Did you see this?
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/AdHoc
>
>
>>
>> Since I last posted, I've discovered "Open Systems .Interconnection
>> (OSI) Model".
>>
>>
> Did you see this part?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model#Comparison_with_TCP/IP_model
>
> "The OSI protocol suite <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_protocols>
> that was specified as part of the OSI project was considered by many as too
> complicated and inefficient, and to a large extent unimplementable.[21]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model#cite_note-Tanenbaum-21> Taking
> the "forklift upgrade" approach to networking, it specified eliminating all
> existing networking protocols and replacing them at all layers of the
> stack. This made implementation difficult, and was resisted by many vendors
> and users with significant investments in other network technologies. In
> addition, the protocols included so many optional features that many
> vendors' implementations were not interoperable.[21]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model#cite_note-Tanenbaum-21>
>
> Although the OSI model is often still referenced, the Internet protocol
> suite <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_protocol_suite> has become
> the standard for networking. TCP/IP's pragmatic approach to computer
> networking and to independent implementations of simplified protocols made
> it a practical methodology.[21]
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSI_model#cite_note-Tanenbaum-21> Some
> protocols and specifications in the OSI stack remain in use, one example
> being IS-IS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IS-IS>, which was specified
> for OSI as ISO/IEC 10589:2002 and adapted for Internet use with TCP/IP as
> RFC <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Request_for_Comments_(identifier)> 1142
> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1142>."
>
>
>> I would like to be pointed to material on creating an appropriate P2P
>> network with a preference to sources tied to OSI.
>> {References to servers/clients, switches, routers, un-listed hardware,
>> etc are _*VERBOTEN*_!}
>>
>> TIA
>>
>>
>>
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