[PLUG] Ubuntu Server on HP ProLiant DL380 G5
Chuck Hast
wchast at gmail.com
Thu Aug 29 02:30:58 UTC 2019
I have a slot for another GPU, see if I can find another one out there to
stick in it, saw a comment that if there
was space for more than one, that would drop the CPU load even more.
The H264 and H265 cameras do not use a lot of BW for sending video but the
down side is you need a lot of
processor to handle the stream especially with cameras that are running
2592 X 1944 because all of that
compressed video has to be reversed and put out there for view.
ZoneMinder is a neat product, I look at all of these low cost DVR's that
are on the market and I think that a lot
of them are using ZM as the core and they wrap something around it to make
it look different. And of course
the do not use many of the tools and capabilities that are available in ZM.
I have seen it used for many different
captures. I have used it to capture a pet doing something improper (needed
to figure out which one) I have used
it to capture some critter being a pest, same goes for people. I have also
used it to capture events on machines
that I was able to trigger either from improper motion or some other source
of a trigger. I saw one fellow in the UK
who had an issue (he and his neighbors) with some turkey driving full
throttle through their subdivision the cops
could never get him so he set up two cameras such that he was able to
capture cars as they drove through the
camera view, with a trigger zone such that he was able to write some code
(I believe it was in Python) and put
the vehicle speed on the video along with capturing the tag (another set of
cameras) He got the video turned it
over to the law and they put a stop to it. (As a flight instructor I had a
student who did that same sort of stupidity,
I cured him but that is a story for a different time).
Yes, ZM some find a wee complicated, but that is due to the fact that it
can do SO much. If you need a neat
video capture solution ZM is one to look at. Windows is NOT supported, that
is one of the first statements out
of the box on the web site. Do not even ask...
On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 6:03 PM Tomas Kuchta <tomas.kuchta.lists at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Thanks for sharing the experience Chuck,
>
> Awesome result.
>
> -Tomas
>
> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019, 17:55 Chuck Hast <wchast at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I found a GeForce 9500 GT in my card pile, I looked it up, it appeared
> that
> > it would work. Put it in and then
> > loaded the Nvidia drivers and tools, as soon as it did that I saw the
> total
> > CPU load from from 70-90% down
> > to 25% with peaks at 70% but they are spaced out. Before looking at the
> CPU
> > loading on Gkrellm there wa
> > just a green band at about 70% with grass going to 90+ %. Also the core
> > temps have dropped by about 10C.
> >
> > Thank you very much. Have to see about a newer card for the machine but
> > that one did a lot.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:56 PM Chuck Hast <wchast at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Tomas,
> > > THANK YOU!! I was trying to figure that out. The server is headless
> but I
> > > can put two PCI cards (short cards)
> > > in two PCI slots, as I figure it still needs to process the video for
> > > storage to the db and also when it is sent to
> > > a browser or app which has linked to the server. It seemed like most of
> > > the info was someone wanting to view
> > > the video on the server even though they still needed to use a browser
> to
> > > do so. But I was not clear if the server
> > > could use the additional video cards or not. Now I am going to find a
> > pair
> > > of them. I already found the command
> > > to check the HW accell. but did not invoke it, as it is I do not think
> it
> > > will make much difference right now as there
> > > is only the VGA output from the Proliant, and that is slow.
> > >
> > > for some reason it would not take the install of Ubuntu server, not
> even
> > > Ubuntu desktop, but Mate it did take,
> > > now I just need to go in and remove all of the stuff I do not need to
> > use,
> > > and probably make it boot to a console
> > > rather than a desktop.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 8:38 PM Tomas Kuchta <
> > tomas.kuchta.lists at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Chuck,
> > >>
> > >> I do not know much about ZoneMinder, but its video processing is done
> > >> using
> > >> ffmpeg.
> > >>
> > >> ffmpeg can be (is) accelerated using graphics card. I'd imagine that
> you
> > >> might not even need to compile your own to enable it.
> > >>
> > >> I would recommend checking that out.
> > >>
> > >> Tomas
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Aug 26, 2019, 12:46 Chuck Hast <wchast at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > If you use any variant of Ubuntu there is a setup script that you
> run,
> > >> it
> > >> > gets a ZM system up and running, then
> > >> > starts the good part, adding the cameras. I have a collection of
> > >> different
> > >> > ones so they are almost all different
> > >> > but once setup it runs great.
> > >> >
> > >> > These newer H264 and H265 cameras do not take a lot of BW BUT they
> > need
> > >> > processor, I used to get away
> > >> > with a run of the mill machine for the old jpg stream, but this not
> > so.
> > >> I
> > >> > am trying to figure out if there is a way
> > >> > to use a video card to offload the video processing and zone
> > processing
> > >> so
> > >> > as not to load up the processors
> > >> > so much. I have 8 cameras 2 are 5mp 4 of them are 1080p and two are
> > >> 720p.
> > >> > All told they keep the 380 G5
> > >> > loaded at about 70%. The admin console is CLI as it is all done over
> > ssh
> > >> > (for day to day admin) and web
> > >> > browser (to change zoneminder params check a given stream or camera
> > and
> > >> for
> > >> > the full diplay ZMNinja.
> > >> >
> > >> > I have two PCI slots in the 380, I am wondering if I can use some
> sort
> > >> of
> > >> > video card or other processor to
> > >> > offload some of the video processing from the processors.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 11:30 PM elcaseti . <elcaseti at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > "I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy" Zoneminder is the
> > best
> > >> a/v
> > >> > > security setup I know of, but I've never heard anyone refer to
> > >> setting it
> > >> > > up as easy. I hope to learn it someday.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 8:49 AM Chuck Hast <wchast at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > Folks
> > >> > > > I got the beast running, I really needed to do so as the UHD
> > cameras
> > >> > had
> > >> > > > maxed out the I7 processor on my
> > >> > > > original ZoneMinder box.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > A summary of what I did.
> > >> > > > First I tried Ubuntu Server Live 18.04, it would not load
> abending
> > >> with
> > >> > > > unable to find bnx2 drivers.
> > >> > > > Then for grins I tied Ubuntu 18.04 desktop. It would run from
> the
> > >> > stick,
> > >> > > > but once loaded it would freeze just
> > >> > > > before the login screen.
> > >> > > > I tried CentOS, it did about that same as Ubuntu Server Live. It
> > >> would
> > >> > > > abend complaining about not seening
> > >> > > > the hard disk.
> > >> > > > So I had Mate 18.04 (that is what I run on everything else) so I
> > >> > figured
> > >> > > > what is another 15 minutes. IT LOADED.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > At this point I have a system that is running so I installed the
> > >> LAMP
> > >> > > > server bits and ran an install script for
> > >> > > > ZoneMinder, added the first camera and got video. Now I have all
> > of
> > >> > them
> > >> > > > running and the average load on
> > >> > > > the processors is about 40% Still a wee bit high but all of the
> > >> temps
> > >> > on
> > >> > > > the processors are good and I am not
> > >> > > > seeing any video getting dropped or other funnies I was seeing
> > with
> > >> the
> > >> > > > older machine.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > The most impressive thing?? Shut it down and let it cool a bit
> (or
> > >> > > > something time out) and then fire it back up,
> > >> > > > for about 30 seconds the fans run up to full throttle, sounds
> > like a
> > >> > > small
> > >> > > > turbine, then it slowly throttles back to
> > >> > > > whatever speed it needs to keep the insides cool. I guess the
> > other
> > >> > > issue
> > >> > > > will be feeding the thing, but for now
> > >> > > > it is doing the job I need it to do, capture 5mpxl data streams
> > >> from my
> > >> > > > cameras.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 10:04 PM Chuck Hast <wchast at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > > The weird thing is that the desktop version installs the bnx2
> > >> module
> > >> > > just
> > >> > > > > fine and brings up the NIC cards,
> > >> > > > > I get IP assignments for both of them. Indeed I have tried
> both
> > >> > Ubuntu
> > >> > > > and
> > >> > > > > Ubuntu Mate and both of them
> > >> > > > > bring the NIC cards on line using the bnx2 driver.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I was looking at the server install info and supposedly I
> should
> > >> be
> > >> > > able
> > >> > > > > to proceed with the install and if I
> > >> > > > > need more software install it later, but it will NOT allow me
> to
> > >> get
> > >> > > past
> > >> > > > > the network setup. So that is FUBAR'd.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Also I see the bnx2 module in there but for some reason it
> does
> > >> not
> > >> > > > become
> > >> > > > > active. Both NIC cards are labeled
> > >> > > > > as disabled.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > I will continue to plug at it until I get it fixed. It just
> > >> appears
> > >> > to
> > >> > > be
> > >> > > > > some sort of issue with the server install, who
> > >> > > > > would want to run a desktop install on a box like that. It
> > sounds
> > >> > like
> > >> > > a
> > >> > > > > wind tunnel and it will keep the room warm
> > >> > > > > so I will not need to run the heat in the winter time in this
> > room
> > >> > > (were
> > >> > > > I
> > >> > > > > to keep it here) These things are just big,
> > >> > > > > but the make great DVR boxen for high res cameras on
> Zoneminder.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > On Thu, Aug 8, 2019 at 3:31 AM wes <plug at the-wes.com> wrote:
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >> When I have challenges like this, I often use a USB ethernet
> > >> adapter
> > >> > > > >> during
> > >> > > > >> the install, which uses common enough hardware that drivers
> are
> > >> > always
> > >> > > > >> found in the default kernel module set.
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> -wes
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:42 PM Chuck Hast <wchast at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> > looked in the kernel.log and found the following error
> > message
> > >> > > > >> > bnx2 0000:05:00.0: Direct firmware load for
> > >> > > > bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw
> > >> > > > >> > failed with error -2
> > >> > > > >> > bnx2 Can't load firmware file "
> bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw"
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > Then it appears to try and load it again and fails. But it
> > >> works
> > >> > in
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > >> > desktop version.
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > It LOOKS like the bnx2 module is in there, but if you try
> to
> > >> > insmod
> > >> > > > it,
> > >> > > > >> the
> > >> > > > >> > system comes back saying it doesn't
> > >> > > > >> > exist, if you look back in /sys/modules it is no longer
> > >> there. I
> > >> > > also
> > >> > > > >> got
> > >> > > > >> > a pix of the system as it is setting up
> > >> > > > >> > the second line above is what is flashed on the screen. I
> am
> > >> > trying
> > >> > > to
> > >> > > > >> > figure out how to work around this one.
> > >> > > > >> > Not sure what is going on with Ubuntu Live Server,
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:42 PM Chuck Hast <
> wchast at gmail.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > > The driver is bnx2, I think as Server is loading I see
> > some
> > >> red
> > >> > > > lines
> > >> > > > >> > > flash by with bnx2 in them so I bet that
> > >> > > > >> > > either it is missing or not loading for some reason.
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 8:25 PM Chuck Hast <
> > wchast at gmail.com>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > >> I think I may see the issue, it appears that the Live
> > Server
> > >> > > needs
> > >> > > > >> to be
> > >> > > > >> > >> able to pull down some software, It would
> > >> > > > >> > >> appear that I am going to have to set up a static
> > connection
> > >> > (No
> > >> > > > big
> > >> > > > >> > deal
> > >> > > > >> > >> but kind of hoky given that the DT
> > >> > > > >> > >> version can find both NICs perfectly well.
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> I also found that there is a way to use the Deb
> installer
> > >> > rather
> > >> > > > than
> > >> > > > >> > the
> > >> > > > >> > >> Live server installer, that I much prefer,
> > >> > > > >> > >> just have to see how to do it.
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 7:50 PM Chuck Hast <
> > wchast at gmail.com
> > >> >
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >>> Had never used ethtool before, did the ethtool -h and
> > got a
> > >> > > whole
> > >> > > > >> > >>> probably 3 screens of data. The first thing
> > >> > > > >> > >>> it wants is the DEVNAME, so I did a ifconfig, and it
> sees
> > >> > > nothing,
> > >> > > > >> only
> > >> > > > >> > >>> the loop back.
> > >> > > > >> > >>> This is under Ubuntu server...
> > >> > > > >> > >>> Now to try the desktop version that appears to find the
> > NIC
> > >> > > ports
> > >> > > > >> just
> > >> > > > >> > >>> fine.
> > >> > > > >> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:19 PM <alan at clueserver.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > Folks,
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > I did this many moons ago when I lived in Kalama and
> > >> worked
> > >> > > at
> > >> > > > >> the
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> glass
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > plant.
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > They had some spare ProLiant servers in a rack doing
> > >> > nothing,
> > >> > > > >> they
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> wanted
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > cameras, so I gave them cameras. I installed ubuntu
> > >> server
> > >> > on
> > >> > > > one
> > >> > > > >> > and
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> then
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > I installed ZoneMinder, it was quite easy and that
> > >> server
> > >> > did
> > >> > > > not
> > >> > > > >> > even
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > know
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > it was
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > working.
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > I am trying to do the same thing again, I have a HP
> > >> > ProLiant
> > >> > > > >> DL380
> > >> > > > >> > G5
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > which
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > I am trying to install Ubuntu server on but when I
> get
> > >> to
> > >> > the
> > >> > > > NIC
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> setup it
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > says
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > DHCPv4 has supplied no addresses, I go in and make
> > sure
> > >> > that
> > >> > > > >> DHCP is
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > selected
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > but no joy. Never had that problem before.
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > I saw one person on line who had a similar problem,
> > this
> > >> > > person
> > >> > > > >> had
> > >> > > > >> > a
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> URL
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > that
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > took you to a different version of Ubuntu server,
> but
> > >> the
> > >> > > file
> > >> > > > >> would
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> not
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > read.
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > If I load in the regular desktop version it does see
> > the
> > >> > NIC
> > >> > > > >> cards
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> and it
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > obtains addresses
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > for both ports (I plug them both into active
> networks)
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> >
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > Any idea of what I am fighting here? Why does the
> > server
> > >> > > > version
> > >> > > > >> not
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> take
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > the NIC
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> > cards but the desktop does?
> > >> > > > >> > >>>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> ethtool will tell you what kernel module is used. See
> if
> > >> it
> > >> > is
> > >> > > > >> loading
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> in
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> both versions.
> > >> > > > >> > >>>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> ---
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> Q: Why do programmers confuse Halloween and Christmas?
> > >> > > > >> > >>>> A: Because OCT 31 == DEC 25.
> > >> > > > >> > >>>>
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> > >> > > > >> > >>>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>> --
> > >> > > > >> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
> > >> > > > >> > >>> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth
> > me.
> > >> > > > >> > >>> Ph 4:13 KJV
> > >> > > > >> > >>> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > >> > > > >> > >>> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> > >> > > > >> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> --
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
> > >> > > > >> > >> I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth
> me.
> > >> > > > >> > >> Ph 4:13 KJV
> > >> > > > >> > >> Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > >> > > > >> > >> Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >>
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > > --
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
> > >> > > > >> > > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth
> me.
> > >> > > > >> > > Ph 4:13 KJV
> > >> > > > >> > > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > >> > > > >> > > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> > >
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > --
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
> > >> > > > >> > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> > >> > > > >> > Ph 4:13 KJV
> > >> > > > >> > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > >> > > > >> > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> > >> > > > >> > _______________________________________________
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> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > --
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
> > >> > > > > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> > >> > > > > Ph 4:13 KJV
> > >> > > > > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > >> > > > > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > --
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
> > >> > > > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> > >> > > > Ph 4:13 KJV
> > >> > > > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > >> > > > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> > >> > > > _______________________________________________
> > >> > > > PLUG mailing list
> > >> > > > PLUG at pdxlinux.org
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> > >> > > >
> > >> > > _______________________________________________
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> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> >
> > >> > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
> > >> > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> > >> > Ph 4:13 KJV
> > >> > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > >> > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> > >> > _______________________________________________
> > >> > PLUG mailing list
> > >> > PLUG at pdxlinux.org
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> > >> >
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
> > > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> > > Ph 4:13 KJV
> > > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
> > I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
> > Ph 4:13 KJV
> > Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
> > Fil 4:13 RVR1960
> > _______________________________________________
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Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT --
I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.
Ph 4:13 KJV
Todo lo puedo en Cristo que me fortalece.
Fil 4:13 RVR1960
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