[PLUG] Universal Personal Code

Jim Karlock jjkarlock at gmail.com
Thu Jul 16 01:53:21 UTC 2020


In view of hackers getting into the most secure prestigious internet 
servers, how do you propose to make it actually secure?

Thanks
JK
DebunkingClimate.com


At 06:45 PM 7/15/2020, Ben Koenig wrote:
>The idea of a Universal Personal Code that gives normal users access to
>identity verification is a very good idea.  But like most good ideas it
>needs a forcing function to justify the change in behavior.
>
>
>BEHOLD! Our Forcing Function has arrived!
>
>https://www.reuters.com/article/us-twitter-cyber/twitter-silences-some-verified-accounts-after-wave-of-hacks-idUSKCN24G32Q
>
>
> From the ashes of Twitter a stronger internet shall arise :)
>
>-Ben
>
>
>On 5/5/20 9:19 PM, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
>
>This is EU wide since at least 2014/2015. I remember getting it issued by
>the post office a long time ago, probably around 2010 or sooner.
>https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/trust-services-and-eid
>
>It allows notary quality document, encryption, transmittal, signing and
>personal authentication. Good enough for courts, banks, property
>transactions, police, almost any legal secure and verifiable
>government/citizen/business communication.
>
>It also comes with electronic post box, AKA funny looking encrypted webmail.
>
>Tomas
>
>On Tue, May 5, 2020, 10:42 John Sechrest <sechrest at gmail.com>
><sechrest at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>I think that a true digital identity is one of the enabling technologies
>that will transform much of our lives.
>
>The Estonian E-residency provides a path to having a validated digital
>identity.
>
>having community based ID systems struggle with a model to keep them
>financially viable.
>So having some mechanism where the ID process is secure and unique is
>important.
>
>It sounds like you have a tool that might be helpful for that.
>
>Have you explored Estonian E-residency?
>
>Singapore and India and the UN are starting to apply that model. And
>Estonia has been pushing the idea across Europe.
>
>I would love to have my Drivers license be the foundation for a digital
>id.
>
>If you like, I can introduce you to someone who help build the X-Road that
>is one of the back end technologies to support the Estonian Digital
>Government.
>
>I now believe that internet based conversations (like Youtube comments,
>Twitter or faceboo) should be backed by a verified digital ID, so that when
>the trolls start trolling, they get blocked permanently.  Anonymous posting
>is a substrate for troll infection.
>
>So meaningful hardware to support a real Digital ID is important.
>
>Let me know if you want to do this talk as a Youtube/zoom talk.
>
>
>
>On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 9:04 PM Keith Lofstrom <keithl at kl-ic.com>
><keithl at kl-ic.com> wrote:
>
>
>Would it be possible to create a universal personal code? I mean not
>part of a corporation like Google, or a nation, like the USA. It would
>have to be run by a totally independent organization, one that everyone
>trusts implicitly.
>
>Years ago, I had a business account at Pacific Continental
>Bank (now merged with Columbia Bank).  I visited the
>Beaverton branch perhaps two or three times a year.
>At least two employees would greet me with my first
>name when I walked in.
>
>There are people with the skill of recognizing tens of
>thousands of individuals on sight.  Combine that skill
>with vetting and training, and you have the core of an
>"identification company", whose mission is to verify
>your identity, and authenticate you to others.
>
>It would be too easy to hack online without the F2F
>component, but this could be a two step process, where
>the people at the service identify you, then implant a
>chip that can (indirectly) identify you by private-key-
>signing a transaction.  I'd combine that with another
>device that visually or sonically indicates that your
>imbedded chip is being accessed.  Of course, the chip
>signature and associated online information should be
>changed frequently; the chip might contain hundreds of
>digital keys, externally changeable with yet another
>digital programming key.
>
>For ordinary commercial and personal tasks, this would
>be a "nice to have"; for an emergency room doctor needing
>access to patient records Right Now Only, it could be a
>literal lifesaver.
>
>In any case, something you are, something you have, and
>something you know ... and NOBODY ELSE KNOWS, /not/ the
>name of your grade school ... are three good ways to
>identify you.  Somebody skilled at knowing YOU would be
>a good fourth way, and how we've identified each other
>for millenia.
>
>Full disclosure: for decades, I licensed a technology
>for large dense arrays of truly random, permanent bits.
>With modern silicon processes, tens of megabits of
>random bits in an area smaller than the cross section
>of a hair.  The bits can be permanently sequestered
>from external observation; one of our clients used the
>technique to encrypt physical fingerprints in hardware.
>
>Now that the patents have expired, it is open technology,
>so perhaps I should present it to a silicon equivalent of
>PLUG.  Next year, after we get rid of the plague, double
>entendre intentional.
>
>Keith
>
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