[PLUG] wikis breaking on updates (was: Re: Upgrage Breaks MediaWiki - why?)

Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at portlandia-it.com
Tue Aug 1 20:42:44 UTC 2023


Per https://moinmo.in/MoinMoin2/InstallDebian  and  https://github.com/moinwiki/moin version 2.0+  it is

"unstable, for production please use 1.9.x."

Ted

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From: PLUG [mailto:plug-bounces at pdxlinux.org] On Behalf Of Russell Senior
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Subject: Re: [PLUG] wikis breaking on updates (was: Re: Upgrage Breaks MediaWiki - why?)



On 7/31/23 23:15, Ben Koenig wrote:
> The longterm success and/or failure of any software project comes down to the maintainability of the codebase. Projects with good, clean codebases get more love because the cost of contributing is much lower. Given how many big projects use moinmoin I think it's safe to say that nobody has bothered to fix it because it's a hot fucking mess.
The wikipedia entry says "a steamed or boiled bean pudding".

I think what actually happened is that v1.x achieved a kind of stability and it basically didn't change for a decade and the people who knew how it worked kind of wandered away. It was only the abandonment of python2 that has led to the "crisis". There has been a slow moving effort to build a v2 of MoinMoin, but it's reportedly not ready for production, or wasn't when I looked last (again, about a year ago).


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