[PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

[Ted Mittelstaedt]

TLDR

As I said, people leave bleeding...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeJXYhdfR6Q

Ted



-----Original Message-----
From: PLUG <plug-bounces at lists.pdxlinux.org> On Behalf Of Ben Koenig
Sent: Monday, February 27, 2023 7:42 AM
To: Portland Linux/Unix Group <plug at lists.pdxlinux.org>
Subject: Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a Mailing List Meltdown

OMG everyone needs to get over it. Two wrongs don't make a right. 

This obligatory XKCD reference applies to both side of the isle...
https://xkcd.com/169/

-Ben


------- Original Message -------
On Monday, February 27th, 2023 at 7:30 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt <tedm at portlandia-it.com> wrote:


> I agree this should have been originally posted to plug-talk but it was not, which is why my response was to plug and why this response is also to plug. I am not going to accept a label of "covid denier" since I am not one, nor was I advising people to take no precautions.
> 
> So I'm a "covid denier" eh? OK let's look at this particular logical game, called "cancelling someone"
> 
> The CDC's rules are that that anyone who does not bother with getting additional vaccines is going to get COVID and thus is a COVID denier.
> 
> Except, the CDC also stated that COVID was not in the US in 2019. I got sick in 2019 around Thanksgiving.
> 
> So, if someone wanting to cancel me based on the CDC's rules asserts I had COVID in 2019, and am denying I had it, then they are asserting the CDC was lying. So if the CDC is lying about that, then it's lying about the basis for me being a COVID denier - so they lose.
> 
> However, if that person accepts that I DID NOT have COVID in 2019, then since I did NOT get it even while being exposed (before vaccines were available), and because I have not taken the full course of vaccines, once more the CDC is lying, and so it's also lying about the basis for me being a COVID denier. So, once more - the person trying to cancel me loses the game.
> 
> I've had plenty of experience playing the cancel culture game and most 
> people who play it with me leave bleeding. LOL
> 
> Ted
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: PLUG plug-bounces at lists.pdxlinux.org On Behalf Of Ben Koenig
> 
> Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2023 11:28 PM
> To: Portland Linux/Unix Group plug at lists.pdxlinux.org
> 
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: March PLUG Meeting: Anatomy of a 
> Mailing List Meltdown
> 
> I've never seen a COVID denier admit that they had COVID.
> 
> 
> -Ben
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------- Original Message -------
> On Sunday, February 26th, 2023 at 10:38 PM, Jake Bottero jake at botteronet.net wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > Good grief. A COVID denier, or what I call, a Covidiot.
> > 
> > On Sun, Feb 26, 2023, 20:52 Ted Mittelstaedt tedm at portlandia-it.com wrote:
> > 
> > > The last time I had a severe respiratory infection was 
> > > Thanksgiving
> > > 2019 through January 2020. I've only had the 2 original Moderna 
> > > shots. However during the entire pandemic I was still out and 
> > > about
> > > - since you can't do IT consulting on a server that's down remotely.
> > > Even long before the Moderna vaccine came out. I must have been 
> > > exposed dozens of times. Never got it. And have never gotten a 
> > > cold or flu or anything since 2019. I guess I'm a Typhoid Mary, lol.
> > > 
> > > FWIW,
> > > 
> > > I have always felt that there's a TON of stuff that "they" know 
> > > about COVID that is being withheld from the general public. I've 
> > > read so many stories of people repeatedly exposed and not come 
> > > down with it, some completely unvaccinated, and stories of people 
> > > vaccinated to the gills but still got it. I think that there has 
> > > GOT to be a genetic marker that indicates susceptibility to it 
> > > that "they" know about that they are not telling us about. And 
> > > Trump must have been told he was most likely immune or if he did 
> > > get it it would be a light case, otherwise he wouldn't have been 
> > > running around unmasked. I never believed the stories about how 
> > > the best medicine in the world saved him when he got COVID. He 
> > > knew it would be a light case, he wanted to get it to seem like he was "one of us" and only after he got it and looked like a fool did he backpedal on that.
> > > 
> > > I'll die of old age before knowing the truth but I hope my 
> > > descendants generations files a Freedom of Information request eventually.
> > > 
> > > Ted
> > > 
> > > > Full disclosure: I recently had covid. I was fully (5 times) vaccinated.
> > > > I was exposed on February 8. I started having symptoms on 
> > > > February 10. The symptoms weren't pleasant but remained pretty mild.
> > > > Started testing positive on Feb 12, had pretty much recovered by 
> > > > February 15th, but continued >testing positive until my first 
> > > > negative test on February 20. I tested negative again on the 21st, 22nd, and 25th.