[PLUG] email hosting - who?

[Johnathan Mantey]

There's also the danger that "insert provider here" decides you have
violated their terms of use and permanently block you from your own content.


On Fri, Aug 9, 2024 at 9:17 AM Ben Koenig <techkoenig at protonmail.com> wrote:

> Obligatory XKCD 743:
> https://xkcd.com/743
>
> A lot of people use "privacy" as a shorthand way to reference the larger
> issue of trust when it comes to companies like Google.
>
> Yes, GW does provide a lot of features that may fall perfectly in line
> with what users want. But there is more to infrastructure than just "does
> it have feature X?"
>
> Google in general has shown that it is not reliable from an infrastructure
> standpoint. They have a tendency to kill projects, and those projects that
> are not killed will someday change and end users often have no say in the
> matter. The fact that GW provides the requested features today is moot,
> because tomorrow those features could be removed or changed rendering your
> conclusion incorrect.
>
> Rational people generally avoid Google because they trusted them in the
> past, got burned and learned from the experience. IIRC there was a
> discussion very similar to this on G+.... let me get you a link... ;)
>
> -Ben
>
>
> On Thursday, August 8th, 2024 at 8:49 AM, mo <mowglieee at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Not really.
> >
> > Privacy? Considering the insane amount everyone puts on social media,
> what
> > privacy is there? Plus anything other self hosted = someone has your
> data.
> >
> > Market diversity? Idk what that one means precisely.
> >
> > GW not Gmail. So not free.
> >
> > 144% for 1000% more services than mere email host.
> >
> > So nope, don't understand even slightly why rational ppl would not choose
> > GW in this scenario. But I appreciate the effort regardless.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 8, 2024, 07:29 Tomas Kuchta tomas.kuchta.lists at gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Privacy, market diversity, not having all eggs in one basket, gmail is
> free
> > > anyway, .... and 12*6=72 that happens to be 144% of 50
> > >
> > > I hope that gives you some idea what others may or may not think about
> when
> > > chosing a service provider.
> > >
> > > Tomas
> > >
> > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2024, 11:36 mo mowglieee at gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > If $50/yr, why not just use Google Workspace? $6/mo for all their
> > > > services.
> > > > I'm asking bc I want the cons of using GW.
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2024, 01:18 Tomas Kuchta tomas.kuchta.lists at gmail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ++ for fastmail email hosting.
> > > > >
> > > > > Works great with(out) own domain for $50 per year.
> > > > >
> > > > > The only feature I am missing - their calendar foes not export
> birthday
> > > > > calendar over IMAP.
> > > > >
> > > > > -T
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Aug 6, 2024, 16:13 Courtney Rosenthal cr at crosenthal.com
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah, been there, done that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I quit email self-hosting I went to fastmail.com. It works
> out
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > $50 per mailbox per year. I have a bunch of domains there. I
> setup
> > > > > > aliases in those domains that forward into one of two mailboxes.
> So
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > costing me about $100/yr for that and I'm super satisfied.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They won't do DNS though. I'm using cloudns.net and I'm very
> > > > > > satisfied
> > > > > > with them. I've had to use their support a few times (for their
> > > > > > monitoring service) and they've been super responsive --
> including
> > > > > > implementing a feature request I made.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 8/6/24 14:34, Michael Rasmussen wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm winding down my self-hosted web space. Part of this is
> finding
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > place to host jamhome.us - or more accurately the email
> portion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Can you recommend a place that would do that? They can host the
> > > > > > > domain
> > > > > > > name too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Courtney Rosenthal / cr at crosenthal.com / www.crosenthal.com
>