[PLUG] Ghosted?

[James Tobin]

How did he recruit for the position initially? i.e. was it via
linkedin or a similar job site, a recruiter or headhunter, or internal
recruiter?

Picture this:

1. A recruiter had a strong working relationship with the employer’s
CTO, spanning around 10 years;
2. The CTO recently retired, and another manager—who may now hold more
influence—has possibly stepped into a more prominent role;
3. The recruiter had prior negative interactions with this manager,
which were reported to both HR and the former CTO. These issues
included:
a) Unfounded reasons for rejecting 3 qualified applicants;
b) Frequent changes in hiring location preferences;
c) Inappropriate comments to the recruiter about a candidate;
d) Allegedly describing the job to a candidate during an interview in
an unjustifiably negative or misleading manner;
4. Despite typically submitting only a small number of resumes per
role, the recruiter consistently maintained a high success rate in
placements;
5. In a recent engagement, the recruiter reconnected with a manager
they had previously worked with—one with whom there were no prior
issues;
6. Despite submitting two qualified candidates, HR abruptly terminated
the contract and declined to progress either candidate to interview.
No feedback was provided—an uncharacteristic departure from the
employer’s prior approach, which consistently included constructive
input and engagement throughout the candidate introduction process;
7. The employer states that they have no obligation or reason to
provide feedback, engage in further communication, or follow up on the
two candidates’ CVs, as stated in their detailed several page rebuttal
to a one-page letter.

On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 at 23:25, VY <vyau5678 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> A friend who is a manager at a large tech firm told me about this a few
> months ago.
> He had an opening in his team last December.  He received 2000+ resumes for
> this position (one opening).
> He had no feasible way to review so many resumes.  So he eventually only
> reviewed those that were referred by folks that he personally knew.
> Even with just the "referral list", that was close to 30 resumes.
>
> I am not justifying the lack-of-response situation.  It is very frustrating
> as a job hunter these days.
> I am not saying that every hiring manager has the same situation as my
> friend.
> I just want to share a different perspective.
>
>
>
>
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> On Sun, Jul 27, 2025 at 2:27 PM James Tobin <jamesbtobin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Do you know of any headhunting firms that would legally pursue an
> > employer because they did not provide feedback?  What do people
> > understand the difference is between a firm that operates as
> > headhunters rather than recruiters?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 27 Jul 2025 at 22:22, Tomas Kuchta <tomas.kuchta.lists at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I can think of a few reasons:
> > > * There is no value in spending any calories on rejected candidates
> > > * Potential liability
> > > * Potential for extra arguments, hassle and follow up
> > > * It is proprietary knowledge, many applications are generated and almost
> > > all are screened by a LLM - so giving feedback would let the generating
> > > LLM/human to tune for success.
> > > * Work load - they maybe rejecting many candidates for a few positions.
> > Not
> > > necessarily because of a particular reason
> > > * There is whole industry of asking job candidates to generate resumes
> > for
> > > training or for sale - essentially for free, just by advertising a job
> > > opportunity.
> > >
> > > Applying/searching for a job is no fun, especially on saturated labor
> > > market, that is for sure.
> > >
> > > -T
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 25, 2025, 17:59 James Tobin <jamesbtobin at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Why do you think that is?
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 25 Jul 2025 at 21:55, <kenjen at tuta.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, but I also know that employers in the U.S. generally don't want
> > to
> > > > admit why an applicant was refused or passed on.
> > > > > Thanks | おおきに / ありがとう | Kiitos | Merci | Gracias | Obrigada | Grazie
> > |
> > > > 谢谢 | Danke | Wado | спасибо,
> > > > > 賢進ジェンナ「Kenshin, Jenna」
> > > > >
> > > > > "You should be as alive as you can until you're totally dead!" -
> > Dylan
> > > > Moran
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2025年7月25日 11:57 差出人:  jamesbtobin at gmail.com:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi, if you were represented by a recruiter (headhunter, recruitment
> > > > > > consultant, agent, or whatever they prefer to call themselves) for
> > a
> > > > > > potential job with an employer, would you expect them to do
> > everything
> > > > > > possible to get feedback on your resume, skills, experience,
> > overall
> > > > > > application, and suitability directly from the employer after you'd
> > > > > > been presented?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> >